MARSH FAMILIES
DNA PROJECT

John Marsh, Project Administrator, ajmarsh@arrrg.org
Y-DNA Haplogroup R1b P312+ DF27+ L617+

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INTRODUCTION:

A new Y-DNA SNP called L617 was discovered in 2011 in a Marsh (Participant A1 below) in the WTY test at Family Tree DNA.
The person tested L617+ is in haplogroup R1b P312+, below  DF27+, and below Z2552+. 

Families who are L617+:  The Y-DNA SNP DF27 is a significant branch of haplogroup R1b which is common in Western Europe.  
The SNP Z2552 which seems to have occurred soon after DF27, likely within a few hundred years, is found in a number of families with
Iberian origins.  The SNP L617 below Z2552 is found in so far 2 families with Iberian origins, and a group of families in Northern
Europe and the British Isles.  So far all persons found to have L617 also are believed have the following 7 mutations...

8466862     G>A
15407374   C>T
15092671   G>A
7506827     C>T
9321347     T>C
23332817   T>C
23387829   T>A

These 7 mutations along with L617 will have occurred in the line of descent from after the person first having the Z2552 mutation, and before
the L617 family split into different branches.  At this stage we can't be sure what order these 8 mutations occurred in, unless we can find
some branches which have some but not all of the mutations. 

Given the strong associations of DF27, Z2552, and L617 with Iberia, it would seem plausible that the line of descent where these 8 mutations
occurred, perhaps over a period of 300 to 600 years, this family was likely in Iberia, or somewhere nearby.  After this period, the family
seems to have split into a number of branches.  At least one branch is found in Iberia.  Another branch which seems to have
had the mutation 6891098 G to A, is found in a number of lines on the Eastern England by perhaps 900 years ago, and in  one branch,
possible Wales about 900 years ago.  A third branch is found in Flanders/ Netherlands which may have the 6891098 G to A mutation has not
been tested for it yet.

Some have been trying to estimate dates for these different branching points.  We will have more accurate dates in the future, but Perhaps
Z2552 occurred around 4,000 to 3,500 years ago.  Perhaps the L617 family branched a little before 3,000 years ago.  These time periods roughly
correspond to the Bronze Age, so berhaps Bronze Age technologies helped the L617 family to proliforate, and spread to Northern Europe and
the British Isles, as well as remaining in Iberia.

Anyone testing L617+:  If someone has test a result of L617+ please contact John Marsh at ajmarsh@arrrg.org .  

Y-DNA TEST RESULTS


 

MARSH FAMILIES DNA PROJECT:
Project Administrator AJ Marsh
ajmarsh@arrrg.org
Haplogroup
R1b P312+DF27+
L21- L617+
 
The following are either tested L617+,
or are inferred to be L617+ because a relative has been tested.
(Teague/Tyndall families ... by an approximate method, direct male line relationship to Marsh  families may be about 1,200 years ago, (FTDNA alternatively estimate 50% chance about 500 years ago with less than 3% chance of more than 800 years.)
 
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Surnames tested or inferred to be DF27+L617+
MARSH

TYNDALL
TEAGUE
(originally TYNDALL???)
PAYNE
(originally TINDALE)
SPINK
(originally TYNDALL???)
ROGERS
MARKEY
OREEL
Results Strings for 111 Y-DNA markers as tested at Family Tree DNA 
CLUSTER 1: Currently, Marshes and Tyndalls are thought to have a common ancestor on the direct male line about 500 to 900 years ago, and this infers that L617+ is therefore at least 500 to 900 years old, but possibly older.  It is though possible that Marsh/ Tyndall/ Teague/ Payne/ Spink families may have descended from a Baron (Adam or Robert) de Tyndall in Tynde Dale, Northumberland in the 1100s.  It is unclear what the origin of the de Tyndall family was prior to 1100 was, but a possibility is that they were a family of Norman origin on the direct male line.
CLUSTER 2:  Only Rogers tested L617+ to date from this cluster.  The common ancestor of the Cluster 1  L617+ and the Cluster 2  L617+ would seem to be about 3,000 to 5,000 years ago.  Rogers Q601 and Marsh A1 have 26 mutations between them on 67 markers, implying a reasonable time back to common ancestor.

 
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L617+

R1b1a2a1a1b
(A1 tested P312+L21-Z196-DF19-
L617+)

 

 

Marsh:Marshes generally tracing to Cambridgeshire (in particular West Wratting), Suffolk & Essex England.  There is evidence of a Marshe/ Marche family living in West Wratting Cambridgeshire as far back as the late 1400s, and these are likely ancestors of the C1 Marshes from west Wratting .   There was a Mareys (de Merc/ Maris/ Marsh) family owning land at West Wratting up until 1364 when it passed via an heiress to a Brown family http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=66721 .  A Simon de Merc (de Merk/ de Marcq/ Marsh) owned land at "Wratting" in the 1100s.  There is no evidence to connect the C1 Marsh group to Simon de Merc, or the West Wratting Mareys family, but the possibility of a connection is being investigated.  Current thinking is that West Wratting Marshes may not be direct male line descendants of Simon de Merc, who probably descended from the de Marcq family from near Calais, in France.  Current evidence suggests that the de Marcq family were haplogroup I., represented by a Marris family from Lincolnshire.  After 1200, a descendant of Baron Robert de Tyndall moved to Northamptonshire and Norfolk, and had estates within a few miles of Marsh estates in Cambridgeshire and Norfolk.  Tyndall Q493 has a speculated male line tree to this Robert de Tyndall.  A possibility is that Tyndalls and Marshes descend  on the male line from this Robert de Tyndall some time around 1200 or later, when the Marsh and Tyndall families lived close to each other.
Family B1- Marsh: ancestor = John Marsh b. 1787 West Wratting
On 25 June 2011 a New SNP L617 was discovered for the first time in A1..
Family B20- Marsh
:
ancestor = Thomas Marsh b. circa 1670, lived West Wratting
Family B96- Marsh: ancestor= James Marsh b.1794?  Burwell.       
Family B78- Marsh
:
traces to  Gt Bradley Suffolk, 5 miles from West Wratting.    
Family B103- Marsh:
descends from James Marsh & Anne Radford living at Cambridge City shortly after 1800. 
Family B108- Marsh
:  descends from Henry Marsh1781-1850 & Emma Challis, of Haverhill Suffolk, about 5 miles from West Wratting..
Family B160- Marsh:  descends from William Marsh of Bottisham.   

Family B102- Teague
:
Surname Teague.  Possibly descended from same family as Tyndall/ Tindales below in the past 900 years? 

Family of Q336- Tindale/ Payne: descends from John Sanford Tindale Payne (Tindale adopted by Payne family)b.1813 Kentucky, son of Isaac John Tindale b.1780.  Some USA Paynes match exactly on 12 markers, but have a large number of mutations difference on more markers.  It is therefore necessary to test more than 12 markers of Paynes to confirm a match with C1 group.
Family of Q493- Tyndall: descends from Charles Tindall b. circa 1662 USA.  It appears this family may descend on the male line from Baron Robert de Tyndall b. about 1120 in Northumberland, who may have been the son of an earlier Baron Adam de Tyndall.   There was a later Baron Adam de Tyndall (eldest son of Robert) who only had surviving daughters, and Tyndall estates passed to lines from these daughters, some of the descendants may have also used the surname Tyndall.
Family B176- : From Yorkshire around 1800.  May descend from a Tyndall family.

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Mutation Rate
Estimate per 10,000 transmissions
1
1
4
4
2
5
3
2
2
8
2
8
0
3
0
4
4
2
2
2
1
5
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6
5
8
1
2
1
2
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3
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2
3
9
1
7
2
4
6
5
3
5
3
5
3
5
3
5
2
9
3
0
1
2
1
2
4
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9
5
1
5
0
1
4
0
1
7
0
1
7
0
2
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1
0
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4
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3
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5
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2
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6
1
9
4
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7
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6
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5
6
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. .   Haplogroup AncestralLocation
DYS
Numbers >


 
3
9
3
 
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9
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1
9
 
3
9
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8
5
a
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5
b
4
2
6
 
3
8
8
 
4
3
9
 
3
8
9
-
1
3
9
2
 
3
8
9
-
2
4
5
8
 
4
5
9
a
4
5
9
b
4
5
5
 
4
5
4
 
4
4
7
 
4
3
7
 
4
4
8
 
4
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9
 
4
6
4
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6
4
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6
4
c
4
6
4
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6
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-
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C
A

2
a
 
Y
C
A

2
b
 
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5
6
 
6
0
7
 
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7
6
 
5
7
0
 
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D
Y

a
 
C
D
Y

b
 
4
4
2
 
4
3
8
 
5
3
1
 
5
7
8
 
3
9
5
S
1
a
3
9
5
S
1
b
5
9
0
 
5
3
7
 
6
4
1
 
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7
2
 
4
0
6
S
1
 
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1
1
 
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5
 
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1
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4
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9
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7
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9
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6
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4
9
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4
0
 
7
1
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7
1
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7
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4
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5
4
9
5
8
9
5
2
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T
A

A
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6
3
 
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G
A
A
T

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5
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Locus 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 . .
R1b MODAL    13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 37 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 35 15 09 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 21 15 19 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11 R1b  
CLUSTER 1 common ancestor about 1200?:  Marsh (Cambridgeshire 1500)/ Tyndall  & Payne & Teague (Northumberland 1100/ Northamptonshire 1200)/ Spink (Yorkshire 1800 or 1400?)    
Y1 B1B20B78B96B123B103C1 . . . . . 13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 . 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12                                     11 29 12 13 25 13 10                       23           12   R1b1 Camb?
Z1B1C1.JohnMarsh.b.1787WestWratting           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 . 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 . 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12                                     11 29 12 13 25 13 10                       23           12   R1b1 Cambridgeshire.
A1 B1C1>>WestWratting1787  L617+#           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 11 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12 36 15 09 16 11 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 29 12 12 25 13 10 10 20 15 20 13 24 16 13 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11 R1b1 L617+ Camb.
A12 B1C1>>WestWratting1787           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 . . . . . 12 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 . . 12 . . . . . . .                         .           11 29 12 12 -- 13 10                       23           12   R1b Camb.
A31 B1C1>>WestWratting1787           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 . . . . . 12 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 . . 12 . . . . . . .                                     11 29 12 12 25 13 10                       23           12   R1b Camb.
A32B1C1>>WestWratting1787           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 . . . . . 12 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 . . 12 . . . . . . .                                     11 29 12 12 25 13 10                       23           12   R1b Camb.
A122B1C1>>WestWratting1787           13 24 14 11 12 14 . . 11 13 13 29 16 . . . . . 15 19 . . . . . . 11 . . . ? . . . . ? 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ? . . . . ? . .                                     . ? . . ? . .                       23               R1b Camb.
A18B1C1>>WestWratting1787           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 . . . . . 12 12 . . . . . . ? . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 . . 12 . . . . . . .                                     11 29 12 13 25 13 10                       22           12   R1b Camb.
A160 B160C1>>Bottisham1798           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 39 12 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .                                     . . . . . . .                       .               R1b Camb.
Z20 B20C1WilliamMarsh.b.1741WW           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12                                     11 29 12 13 25 13 10                       23           12   R1b Camb.
A20 B20C1>>WestWratting1671           13 24 14 10 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12                                     11 29 12 13 25 13 10                       23           12   R1b Camb.
A114 B20C1>>WestWratting1671#           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12                                     . . . . . . .                       .               R1b Camb.
A128B20?C1>>WestWratting1671           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 . . 11 11 25 . 19 28 14 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 . . . . . . ? 12 . . . . . . ? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ? . . . . . . .                                     11 . . . 25 13 .                       .           12   R1b Camb.
A154 B154C1>>LeytonEssex1812? #           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 14 17 35 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12 36 15 09 16 11 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 29 12 13 25 13 10 10 20 15 20 13 24 16 13 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11 R1b1 L617+ Essex
A96 B96C1>>Burwell1829>>WWc1560?           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 17 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 19 17 35 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12                                     . . . . . . .                       .               R1b Camb.
A123B123C1>>West Wratting.c1560#           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 19 17 35 39 12 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ? . . . . ? . .                                     . ? . . ? . .                       .               R1b Camb.
A108 B108C1>>WestWratting.c1560?           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 34 39 12 12 . . . . . . 10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12                                     . . . . . . .                       .               R1b Suffolk
A103B103C1>>Cambridge1791#           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12                                     . . . . . . .                       .               R1b Camb.
A78 B78C1>>GtBradleySuffolk1742?           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 28 14 16 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 36 39 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 9 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 11 12 12 12         .                           . . . . . . .                       .               R1b Suffolk
A102B102C1Teague>>USA L617+#           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 10 12 12 12 36 15 09 16 11 26 26 19 12 11 13 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 29 12 13 25 13 10 10 20 15 20 13 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11 R1b1 L617+ USA.
Q336Payne/Tindale>>USA.1780           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 . ? . . . . 12 12 . . . . . . . . . ? . . . . . . . . . 12 . . 12 . . . ? ? . .                                     11 29 12 13 25 13 10                       23           12   R1b USA.
Q493Tyndall>>USA.1662.UK.1120?           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 29 14 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 10 12 12 12                                     . ? . . ? . .                       .               R1b USA.
A176B176C1>>Spink>>Yorkshire1700#s           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 14 18 17 35 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 12 12 11 13 10 12 12 12                                     . . . . . . .                       .               R1b .
A189B189C1>>WestmorelandSurname#           13 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 14 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 . . . . . 12 12 . . . . . . ? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ? . . . . . . .                                     11 29 12 13 25 13 10                       23           12 . R1b1 L617+ ENG?
Q656-(Probably not related)           14 24 14 11 12 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 20 31 14 15 16 17 11 11 19 23 15 . . . . . 13 12 . . . . . . ? . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 . . 13 . . . . . . .                                     11 29 12 24 24 13 10                       23           12 . ??????? ???????
CLUSTER 2:  Rogers (Cambridgeshire 1800)    
Q601Rogers>>1802.UK.Cambridgeshire#           13 24 14 12 11 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 17 9 9 11 11 25 15 18 29 15 16 16 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 17 38 38 11 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 11 22 20 13 11 11 13 11 11 12 12 36 15 9 16 11 25 26 19 12 11 12 12 10 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 10 10 20 15 19 14 23 16 13 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11 R1b1 L617+ Camb.
CLUSTER 3?:  NOTE: not sure if this cluster is  DF27+, one member of the group has an unconfirmed L617+ result, others match on some rarer STR values so could potentially be L617+.    
Q639 >>Oreel  >> France           13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 16 16 10 12 19 23 16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .                                     . . . . . . .                       .             . R1b1 L617+? France
Q640 >>Oreel >> Nieppe Flanders           13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 16 12 10 12 19 23 16 . . . . . 12 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 . . 14 . . . . ? . .                                     . 31 12 13 . 13 10                       .           12 . R1b1 L617+? Netherlands/Flanders
Q653 >>Oreell>>???           13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 16 16 16 10 12 19 23 15 . . . . . 12 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .                                     . . . . . . .                       .           12 . R1b1 L617+? ???????
Q654 >>Gilbert>>???           13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 14 29 17 9 10 11 11 25 14 19 28 14 16 16 16 10 12 19 23 16 . . . . . 12 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 . . 14 . . . . . . .                                     . 31 12 13 . 13 10                       .           12   ??????? ???????
CLUSTER 4:  From Iberian family?    
Q651           13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 9 9 11 11 26 15 19 29 15 15 15 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 17 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 11 23 20 14 12 11 13 11 11 12 12             . . . . . . .                       .                       .               R1b1 L617+ Iberia
CLUSTER 5:  From 1000 genomes project, DF27+, Z2552+, no further details known but may be accessible via the 1000 genomes project. see http://www.yfull.com/tree/R/    
HG01606           13 . . . 14 14 12 . 12 . . . 17 8 9 . 11 . . . . 17 17 . . 11 11 . . . 15 . . . . 12 12 . . . . 8 . 12 . . 10 . 23 23 . . . . 15 . 11 22 20       13       12     9       . . . . 12 . .   12   10   11     12     .                       .         9     R1b1 L617+ Iberia
DYS
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3
9
3
 
3
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1
9
 
3
9
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8
5
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3
8
5
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4
2
6
 
3
8
8
 
4
3
9
 
3
8
9
-
1
3
9
2
 
3
8
9
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4
5
8
 
4
5
9
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4
5
9
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5
 
4
5
4
 
4
4
7
 
4
3
7
 
4
4
8
 
4
4
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4
6
4
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4
6
4
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4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
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4
5
6
 
6
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7
 
5
7
6
 
5
7
0
 
C
D
Y

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C
D
Y

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4
4
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4
3
8
 
5
3
1
 
5
7
8
 
3
9
5
S
1
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3
9
5
S
1
b
5
9
0
 
5
3
7
 
6
4
1
 
4
7
2
 
4
0
6
S
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5
1
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4
2
5
 
4
1
3
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1
3
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9
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4
3
6
 
4
9
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3
4
 
4
5
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4
4
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8
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4
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6
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7
 
5
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8
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6
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9
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6
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3
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9
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5
4
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7
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4
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5
4
9
5
8
9
5
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2
4
9
4
5
3
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6
3
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5
7
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6
3
8
4
6
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4
5
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4
4
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T
A

A
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0
4
6
3
 
4
4
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G
G
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A
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1
B
0
7
5
2
5
 
7
1
2
 
5
9
3
 
6
5
0
5
3
2
7
1
5
5
0
4
5
1
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5
6
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5
5
2
7
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6
 
6
3
5
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5
8
7
6
4
3
4
9
7
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4
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6
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